robtherub1 second ago
the way he smiles whenever he mentions killing is really disturbing. he is excellent at politely presenting malevolent threat
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robtherub6 days ago
first woman makes an excellent point, how is he going to destroy that? oh ok by sexism
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
robtherub It may be rationalized away as "sexism", but it was FACT, especially in the 90's. Women were not in a position to restructure social injustices on a major scale. He only stated a fact.
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robtherub5 days ago
farakhan is funny, he's clearly a baptist pretending to be a muslim cos he thinks white people are scared of muslims, quotes the bible more than the koran and said "vote trump" cos he's scared of real muslims coming to america
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robtherub5 days ago
he has built a career on fear, listen to the hissing little beast with his quiet menace, grim, stupid, laughable - he's a master of not saying enough to be a threat but intimating threat throughout - i also rate his quiet to loud vocal delivery, excellent performer, that really gentle menace he starts with raising to a righteous aggressive crescendo at full volume - he learnt that from the baptist ministers, you will never see an Imam do that, all Baptist ministers do that - wasn't he responsible for the murder of malcolm x? he wanted the fame, he wanted the position of being the head "scare the white people with a threat of bloodcurdling vengeance" movement - see him playing trumpet on tv when he was younger? how white america tried to boost that talented little black kid, but then he realised there was more power to be had from hate than musical fame so he killed malcom x and started working on antiwhite racism instead by pretending to be a muslim - Allah will not forgive him or any of his freak followers
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
I don't disagree with much of what you've said. I only admire him for saying much of what the sellout so-called "black leaders" were afraid to say, because like it or not, it needed to be said for the most part. I'm not a Muslim, so I don't follow him and I don't admire him because of the situation with Malcolm. I just think there's truth to what he was stating in this clip.
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robtherub5 days ago
he's a sellout, sellout from day one, sold out the day he pretended to be a muslim - the first woman speaks - everything she says is bang on - he dismisses her - why? because he cares about women's rights? or because he loves hate and wants to keep it going and therefore has an interest in not listening to the truth which is what that woman said - he had to shut her up or he wouldn't be able to sustain the racism he needs for his racist antiwhite agenda - it's all very transparent
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago (edited)
I'll be honest: I don't think there will ever be a way for us to work on anything because as full as America is with all ethnic groups of diverse backgrounds, there is one constant and that is that white people want to exert a position of superiority or supremacy IN AMERICA. Now, I can't say this is true for all white people everywhere, but here, it's true. Caucasian holidays are celebrated every year without the slightest thought or consideration for others. Meaning: your victories were our losses. We are expected to forget a past that no one else has ever experienced, yet we are told to celebrate your victory in a country that white people NEVER founded, but stole, and at the same time, celebrate your victory in stealing it and atrocities committed against the ethnic groups that were here already, which were made into national holidays, but shut up about the atrocious acts that actually took place. You guys expect us to merrily celebrate genocides that were committed against our ancestors. How is that a sane or logical expectation?
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robtherub5 days ago (edited)
noone ever shut up about atrocities, the antiwhite racists got all their information from white historians - america was a british enlightenment project, unfortunately we had inherited a slave trade from portugal and spain that was barbaric owing to the barbarism the portuguese and spanish experienced at the hands of the moors being led in shackles by the neck 50 at a time, chained together into africa to be slaves, the caliph ordering 3000 blonde virgins as sex slaves, so obviously they were a bit racist - the british abololished the slave trade they inherited but not in time to stop the terrible mistake of bringing black slaves to america - now the perpetual victim narrative is killing the entire nation with people getting offended on other peoples behalf and feeling they can attack a whole race morally for the plight of the indigenous americans, even when they are not indigenous - very racist - your negative comment of despair claims people cant get on together because white people are wrong - no, you are wrong about that - people cant get on with each other because of a bunch of self righteous moral frauds with no idea about history making a load of pompous negative statements designed only to be devisive because they think they have something to gain from perpetuating devisiveness
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robtherub5 days ago
"you guys" being white people and "our ancestors" being indigenous americans? are you indigenous american?
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robtherub5 days ago
see how the first woman is talking peace and he doesnt want to hear? see how determined he is that it's not going to work? no wonder you like him, you seem determined to make sure it doesn't work too
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robtherub5 days ago
the white guilt bank is finally empty, over 100 years you have been attacking us with our history, now, everytime you do, we shall attack you with yours, 3000 blonde virgins to be sent to africa for the caliph as sex slaves? and you wonder why they treated black people badly when they got the upper hand? your men always fancied our women more than we fancied yours, still the same today - look at malcolm x on the defence of "our women" from evil rapists and understand why it happened - the problem with americans is they think history began 350 years ago - us people in the old world know that there was always a before that and a before that
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robtherub5 days ago (edited)
look at colin flaherty on the epidemic of black against white violence in the country that has clearly been going on for a very long time justified by this antiwhite racism you are promoting - it's no good for black people either because it leads them to think they can be beligerant abusive criminal murderer even and all they have to do when challenged is shout racist, and this excused bad behaviour leads them to behave really badly to each other, obviously, hence drivebys and no respect for school or law etc.... actual africans do not behave like american black people, like jamaicans behave different to africans - in london i move with a lot of africans and jamaicans - i only started studying the black american mindset when my sons mother got into this black lives matter bullshit that got trump elected - and oh my god, the level of antiwhite racism off black america is disgusting, what disgusting people, omg - i was at a no guns no knives rally in south london a few years ago and after when the black mothers were all talking i the park (i was the only white person) one of the mothers said she went to africa, ghana i think it was, and little black children were respectful to their elders, respectful of authority and that the behaviour of london black kids, who have clearly picked up this american bullshuit now i think about it, is not normal - it is because their racist parents have taught them to hate white people and thereby given them a shit life of resentment - nasty - a further consequence of this "narrative" of yours is, for example, just the other day in london a 43 year old father of three was murdered by a 21 year old black man, no build up, just came up to him and kept stabbing him until he was dead, just because he was white - he is now in prison - he described himself as the black messiah - your narrative justifies him completely yes? instead of calling him the grotesque racist he is - this self righteous claptrap from the american left is killing people worldwide, has got trump elected, has destroyed the left wing and is really shit for black people and white people the world over but particularly for black people
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago (edited)
There you go jumping to conclusions. Yes, I'm indigenous American on both my maternal and paternal side. My mother being of what they call Sioux Indian background and father's lineage is said to be indigenous to America.
But, I wasn't saying that it couldn't be done, just that I didn't think it would be possible and that was only ONE of the reasons.
To expound on that reason: most of what you say can be agreed with as far as historical enslavement, but is that what American school systems teach in schools zoned in predominantly black areas? Most black people are very undereducated, even about slavery and our own captivity. All we are taught is that we were slaves under the subjugation of white supremacy. Then you wonder why lots of us don't understand your views...we don't know anything about it.
Now, if I wanted to be divisive, I know how to do that, so don't assume that was my intention. I'm giving you a view of some people's feelings from a black person's perspective, just as you're giving me a different perspective as a white person, because neither of us has ever been what the other is. I can speak on this as objectively as my capabilities allow, but you should understand that most black people haven't been exposed to the same education as you have, even within the same system.
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robtherub5 days ago (edited)
i know, but i have just seen so many fraudulent narratives since the black lives matter movement started i have almost come to assume that is what i am going to get. i apologise for jumping to conclusions. the greatest historian ever, gambatista vico, 1400's i think, before transatlantic slavery, said it is the first amatuer historian mistake to judge ancient history with current morality - no sense of history can be gained from this and it shows a lack of awareness of the fact that morality itself evolves - a 100 years ago it was immoral, illegal, even, to be homosexual and everybody (almost) agreed - now it is immoral to be homophobic, illegal even in places, and everybody (almost) agrees - the complete exact opposite - morality itself evolves - looking at history and attempting to judge it with modern "progressive" morality is a mugs game and any conclusions drawn from that kind of analysis are bound to be counter productive
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
I've deleted and also apologize for my expletives and anger towards you.
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robtherub5 days ago
i suppose you are too young to remember the Washington Sniper? just after 911 people start getting shot by an unseen shooter - when they caught him he was a black racist antiwhite nation of islam member shooting white people from the boot of his car with his son training him how to do it - he took 911 as a sign that it was time to start killing white people, he took farakhan seriously, he didnt realise farakhan was a sellout who hates real muslims looking for a media and political career power and attention who definately wasn't going to back him up, and neither was his entire movement - under the neo-progressive manifesto black people cant be racist and this was not a racist act - leaving a philosophical position in which you can call a white person a racist for giving you a look that you interpret as unfriendly but will refuse to call someone killing people for nothing more than the colour of their skin a racist because - he is black and the murders are justified by the argument you gave above - which was general about white people and blatantly a directed attempt to insult all white people alive today - same thing - racism - fuck all racists black ones, white ones whatever colour, i dont give a fuck, fuck them all
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robtherub5 days ago
i never saw the deleted expletives, thankyou for telling me about them, don't delete, this is an important conversation - apologies for my expletives above
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Danatcji Mitchell
Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
Listen, I've insulted you out of anger of you calling us a disgusting race. My father was a black man and my family say we weren't taken from Africa, buy we were here in America before enslavement, both Natives and blacks co existing.
I agree that we have to find a way to move on, but until black people finally know the truth of our history, I don't see that happening. Most of us don't know that American whites basically inherited the slave practice and that others were doing so well before them. We just aren't taught or told that, so it's difficult to believe that white people aren't against our freedom, though we know for a fact that all white people don't fall under this category. I think the TRUTH of history will help to liberate us from the lies and presumptions.
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robtherub5 days ago (edited)
the reality is the reality, we are were we are, i have a great deal of respect for indigenous americans and black people but the american race conversation has clearly gone way past stupid point, once you start researching, oh my god, the things you find - my main argument against race war is that it will be death for black people, that's why farakhan doesnt really want it though he pretends he does - poor washington sniper took him serious - a lot of people put in prison because of that hate preacher - but malcolm was the same, was talking to an old londoner who said he was getting on fine with his black mate, worked together, fought the police together, pulled girls together - then malcolm x started spouting his "narrative" and my mates friend got into it, next thing he tries to attack his former friend, the black guy attacks the white devil, but cant cos, the guy loves him, fight doesnt really happen, later the same guy goes out and kills a random white guy he doesnt know and spends the rest of life in prison - another dead white killed by black racism, another black person in prison forever because of this ideology - but!!!! in LONDON - creating problems where there were not problems before - and dont you think the family of the murdered man might be left with bad feelings about black people? and if they expressed them at all what would you call them? racist? 100 years we've been taking these attacks and our response has largely been, yes, sorry, we are guilty, for the black attack comes from white guilt which is prior, it's a catholic thing, the virtue of knowing what you have done wrong, we will shut up any white people who dont like black people because of this constant 100 years worth of attacks and no other view but white guilt will be allowed - but - watching the frauds and the disgusting behaviour of people who think, ok its like that, i can take advantage of that, we are now done with being made to feel guilty about the past, mainly because it is not good for black people, leaves them feeling they don't have to take any responsibility for themselves because everything is the white man's fault
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
As I've said, I don't follow Farrakhan... He seems a fraud to me. Malcolm was more straight forward in how he felt and what he stood for. Farrakhan always seemed to be too full of pride, as if he's a savior of the black race or some shit... But I guess he's helped keep more black men from going in the way of crime, at least that's what the guy in the vid says.
I remember the Washington killers. I think it was a really sad realization for people of the black race to come to terms that we could be capable of committing such a savage act.
I am very passionate about my people and I do believe we all need to fix ourselves collectively, before attempting to indulge in other people's racial issues.
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robtherub5 days ago
listen to the number of times malcolm says "victim" in this one, clearly someone who has realised there is a great deal of social capital to be gained from being a victim, shocked at the tone, the pride with which he describes himself as a victim - ?? what victim is proud of their victimhood?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWB6qjnQvqQ Malcolm sent loads to prison and killed loads, dont be fooled, MLK was the true revolutionary, malcolm? naaaaah, black people killed malcolm, white people killed MLK, waaaaay more revolutionary, malcolm a little tough talking former criminal pretending to be god's man following the false prophet elijah mohamed who is blatantly the central evil within that organisation, i don't trust converts - false prophets burn in the lake of fire for eternity it says in revelations and seeing the work of the dishonourable elijah mohamed i can see why God deemed it so
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
I really don't think blacks are planning for a race war. We're not stupid. We don't have armies of our own. We don't have our own government or even our own representatives.
And, for the most part, black people DON'T WANT TO WAR WITH WHITE PEOPLE. We want to not be treated as less than.
Okay, take what you said about the white victims family and apply it to black victims families. It works both ways. The violence on either end won't stop, but we have to learn how condemn those who are distributing the violence on all parts and not take EVERY offense as a personal attack against our race, unless it's continuously occurring for no apparent reason, like many of the police shootings of black women and men who were unarmed and not breaking the law or committing crimes.
I just think if we can interact civilly as individuals first, this can progress into civil interaction as collectives, but we all need to be RE educated.
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robtherub5 days ago
when you say, "my people", do you mean indigenous americans or african americans? i thought you weren't african american?
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
I am both. My mother is of Native lineage, my father is black, but my family says that we were here in America before enslavement of black people. That Natives and blacks were interacting with each other and cohabitating with one another until slavery. Then some Natives started to enslave blacks.
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robtherub5 days ago
so you can self identify as black when you want indigenous when you want a former slave when you want or not, as the case may be, whichever one is most useful to win whatever argument you are in right? very convenient
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robtherub5 days ago
you look african to me
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robtherub5 days ago
the amount of hate black people have shown towards white is only matched by the amount of love white people have shown towards black people
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Danatcji Mitchell
Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
No...I know who I am, but I also know how America sees me. My grandmother told me that many Native families were torn apart if they wanted freedom. They had to denounce their more "African" looking relatives.
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Danatcji Mitchell
Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
That's a ludicrous statement. Do you mind giving examples of what you mean by that?
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Danatcji Mitchell
Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
When can you say that white people as a collective have shown love for black people and we've answered by mass murders, stealing away your children and selling them, hanging you for sport, etc...
When have black people collectively conspired to war against white people because you have shown us love?
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robtherub5 days ago
all day every day in america - like i say - watch colin flaherty's channel - but i am annoyed now because you led me to believe you were indigenous american, it's like you wanna go on black one minute then indigenous american the next, smells like fraud to me
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Danatcji Mitchell
Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
You may believe what you wish. I explained many comments ago what I am. Review the comments. I'm not a fraud. My mother and her parents are Indian. I don't know if I can show pictures on here. Maybe I can attempt a try.
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robtherub5 days ago
how old are you to be so deeply involved in the race conversation? i am wondering about your parents now and what they have taught you
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
I am over 21. I'm not a kid. I have a husband and children. I posted a picture of my grandma and mother (along with my little cousins in the photo) on my profile.
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
Now, you may or may not have a preconceived idea of what Natives looked like, but very many of them were darker than some of the black people you see in America today.
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robtherub5 days ago (edited)
i have been watching all the black power movement stuff, black people are the real hebrews, black people invented everything and more recently, the black man is a racist white creation and black people are indigenous to everywhere therefore own everything, can claim all rights and noone else can and therefore black people are more important than anyone else - been through all that psuedo intellectual claptrap and all i can say is lies lies lies - contrived bullshit fake academia all of it - again, using white people's revolutionary philosophy against them - the white left attack the right wing for attempting to deal with immigration by the usual shout of "racist" with the argument we are all immigrants and the only people who have any right to be here are the indigenous americans - so immediately a bunch of black people go "im indigenous, im indigenous, i am because i say so and anyone who knows im lying is a racist" - this indigenous "narrative" has also been fucking up the left wing in britain as the left parrots the american left without realising white people are indigenous here so that chant has now been taken up by the far right and, like most of the fraudulent bullshit leftism that comes out of america, it is really bad for black people and immigrants over here - american identity politics has descended into complete bullshit and everybody knows it, soooo many people have cried wolf noone's listening anymore - seems like everyone in america is desperate to claim victim status, you can claim victim status by self identifying as gender neutral for fucks sake - see them programmes where a load of white skinned people are desperately trying to claim they're black? why are they claiming to be black if it's so terrible to be black? if black people are oppressed? probably because black people are not oppressed and there's loads to be gained from claiming victim status, loads of people you can bully with it - loads of arguments you can just win by playing the race card and no actual oppression
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robtherub5 days ago
you were dishonest about being straight about your race - i have read back - you clearly tried to claim total indigenous status in your first response and then claim to be african later - that is a fraud i am afraid
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Danatcji Mitchell
Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
Well, I can't fathom why anyone would want to claim to be descended of a lineage they aren't, I can only speak for myself. I certainly haven't seen any white people claiming to be black...
There are many ethnic groups that are indigenous to different parts of the earth but some are more reluctant to claim their rightful regions. I know this for a fact: we are all mixed in some way or another. I don't think anyone except Jews and those who have isolated themselves like the Jews can claim otherwise.
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
Go to the comment after I said I apologize.
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
I don't have to lie. I posted a picture for you to observe. Of course, believe what you will.
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
And you don't have to be afraid, because I don't want anything from you. We are just having a conversation. I haven't asked anything personal of you and I won't.
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robtherub5 days ago
i am not afraid i am angry. i didn't see the comment after you apologised till just now, i saw the first one "There you go jumping to conclusions. Yes, I'm indigenous American on both my maternal and paternal side. My mother being of what they call Sioux Indian background and father's lineage is said to be indigenous to America." - i don't mind you asking me any personal questions at all and won't hesitate to ask you any i think are relevant, you can choose to answer or not but i will catch you out if you lie or mislead. do you believe in god? you say you cant see any reason why anyone would claim to be a race that they are not but i clearly explained why they do that, like the black lives matter leader, forgot his name, pushing the race war and antiwhite racism while claiming to be black turned out to be entirely white on both sides - loads of examples everywhere, the advantages of victim status are also obvious, it is beyond belief that you have never seen anything like that and i believe you are pretending you don't know what i'm talking about because it is more or less impossible for you to have not noticed. when you said, "I'll be honest: I don't think there will ever be a way for us to work on anything because as full as America is with all ethnic groups of diverse backgrounds, there is one constant and that is that white people want to exert a position of superiority or supremacy IN AMERICA." you were expressing the same deliberate negativity as farakhan which is probably why you like him and the only possible explanation for that is that you can see advantage in maintaining division and pushing the racist antiwhite agenda - your cartoon characterisation of the group you call white people is both racist and untrue - but, with your racist bullshit you have managed to get donald trump elected by putting america in an utterly impossible position so, as usual, black people have created the problem they want and put white privilege at the top - i'm sure you are very happy for it will allow for continued self righteous racist bitching from you and people who believe what you believe but it could backfire for you really badly - i for one am fucking fuming that black lives matter hijacked bernie sanders stage with their hysterical lying bullshit making it impossible for him to be president and, in the process, giving donald fucking trump the fucking presidency, omg, american identity politics has completely destroyed the left wing worldwide, 8 years of obama, guantanamo is still open but the important debate is over transgender toilets? fucking bollocks mate - you lot need to GET REAL - THIS BOLLOCKS IS WHAT GOT TRUMP ELECTED - question, do you think trayvon martin was a victim?
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
You make yourself look as if you're afflicted with some type of mental illness, going from one extreme to another, and of course it's based upon my race because when you thought I was FULLY Sioux, you weren't showing aggression, but since your preconceived idea of who I am and what I look like has been shattered by the reality, your aggressive attitude has returned. You are fully complacent in your views of how black people are pushing some " race war" and anti-white agenda... So I'll just leave you to that, but the argument of black people being the Israelites of the Bible is a convincing one and I do believe it. I don't think it makes black people superior to anyone and for the most part, I don't think the majority of black people desire to be superior to anyone, but when it comes down to it, every action has a reaction, and I don't think black people are so willing to fit into the box of subservience as we once were. Times have changed from that and black people may want it to be known that we won't just fold or bend to the will of white people anymore, but I don't think it's a conspiracy of racial agendas against white people. No, I truly haven't seen ANY white people claim to be black when they are fully white. I have seen and understand the claim of people with mixed lineages to claim one race over the other and that, to me is normal. You just identity with one culture more than you do with another.
Believe me, I have no reason to lie to you about ANYTHING. I don't know you and stand nothing to gain from you by lying; also the internet isn't my life, so I don't feel the need to impress anyone.
What I said about whites in America exerting superiority over other races is true, and I'm definitely unapologetic for expressing my view about that. White America expects that we shouldn't feel victimized, when there IS A VERY NOTABLE and ESTABLISHED history of innocent Natives and blacks who have suffered centuries of hate from white people. Why then, should we all of a sudden believe that they as a collective have had a change of heart? Oh, it's okay for the family of white victims to hate blacks for their crimes against their innocent relatives, but it isn't okay for us to reciprocate the hate that our ancestors were shown for centuries? There's clearly a disillusionment of thought there. Someone isn't thoroughly in touch with reality to agree with that philosophy. Whites in America, as a collective, seem not to want to be held accountable for the state that black and whites are in today. WE didn't hunt YOUR ancestors down, WE didn't Lynch YOUR ancestors for sport. WE didn't burn YOUR ancestors on crosses, WE didn't feed YOUR babies to alligators, WE were innocent in crimes against white Americans, yet there is still evidence of white Americans hating us because they perceive us as a threat to their existence. In this regard, I would be the first to say this is most of the reason why I think desegregation was a mistake. I agree with nationalists of any race who desire to keep their existence intact.
I could really give a rat's ass who is presiding over this country. Politicians are all the same to me. They are all friends or acquaintances at least. They get rich together, while the poor are left to just miserably fight amongst ourselves. They really aren't for the people. The corporations are their main concern.
Yes, I believe in God and yes, I believe Trayvon was a victim, because I've seen MANY Trayvons in America.
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robtherub5 days ago
Shaun King, that's his name, white leader of blm - never heard of him? so you're black now? ok... i thought you were lying - you were... that's why i got hostile, not because you're black ok? is it cos i is black? jesus you sound like ali g - - so... how was trayvon a victim? he had broken the hispanic guy's nose and was banging his head against the ground shouting i'm gonna kill you when the gun went off and he died, that's not a victim in my book, that's someone who died while in the process of attempting to kill someone... and how, praytell, is that an excuse to riot against what? white racism and police brutality? when there were no police involved or white people - i heard they're rioting against white people in charlotte because a black guy got shot by another black guy - the reason people get angry with you is not cos they're racists and you're black, it's because you are a racist who lies, misleads and supports lies and misleading people into a racist antiwhite agenda based on lies, simple as that - get real
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robtherub5 days ago (edited)
i could tell from the start you were desperate to play that race card though, now you've played it and flopped what you got left?
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robtherub5 days ago
sorry if i'm disturbing your "narrative"
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago
Yes... You are CLEARLY mentally ill. You ask me for my opinion, I give it, and you go on some hysterical rant about me lying and all kinds of other crap I never mentioned. Did you even LOOK AT the picture I posted?? A blind man can see that my mother and grandmother are Native American, lol.
When did I ever say ANYTHING about ANY occurrence being an excuse to riot? I haven't lied or mislead anyone... it's not my fault if you aren't reading correctly. I can't help it that you deliberately ignore what I've written in order to bait an argument of senseless accusations. What exactly do you get from that? Some type of joy that you're lacking in your personal life, I'll guess. However, I've not too long ago had a very profound conversation with a white nationalist woman and I have come to understand a little more about certain concerns/ fears of white people, so...I won't entertain your foolishness. You can either act your age and have a decent conversation or not, simple. Accusing me of playing some " race card" won't diminish my feelings or expression of fact based on historical and present day evidence.
Any person who accuses another of racism without any solidified evidence is an idiot in my book. You don't like my answers? Don't ask the question or simply stop responding.
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robtherub5 days ago
so you're native american now? and you think the "black people are the hebrews" line is credible, you like that and identify with that? and you're still black? wow, so you're an indigenous american hebrew african all at the same time? wow, that is one hell of a lot of self identifying you have done there, a native american from the middle east - sounds like an internal contradiction to me, sounds like a lie
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Danatcji Mitchell5 days ago (edited)
I really don't care what it sounds like to you. If you can't understand the concept of someone being from mixed lineages, then you're ill equipped for they conversation we were having. Once again, my mother's side is Native American, my father was a black man, also of Afro-Asiatic descent ( which is who the original Hebrew tribes were, not just " black", as in the color of a crayon). I'm laughing at you now, because you soo desperately WANT me to be lying. I'm curious as to why, though? I mean, how does who I am affect you? Lol. Or does it offend your senses that I'm aware of my lineages?
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robtherub
robtherub4 days ago
NO, i just ranting last night as i was watching a genuine white supremacist entering the white house - fucking hell, black lives matter is about to get what its been wanting and the whole world is going to suffer - sorry, yeah you're right, that is conceiveable, its just im sensing a projected self righteousness so im having a sneer at it cos im fucking fed up of it cos i know thats what got trump elected, years and years and years of bulshit american identity politics - it is such a fucking wind up, it is absolutely infuriating as im sure you have noticed, as im sure you have used to your advantage or just for fun to have a go at people because your family background is so suited to it - you stand at the top of the identity politics list of people who are right to be self righteous, you could sneer anybody down with that bloodline, im sure you do often -what did the woman say, what did farakhan say? - i am probably totally wrong about all of this and yes i am mentally ill, bipolar one, there you go, so have a bit of personal on me, untreated since 911 and i really shouldnt even comment on this type of shit at all, it drives me nuts, literally, but it came into my living room and infected my sons mother who is jamaican and she has since taken my son away and i am gutted because it is coming up to christmas - he looks more indigenous american than you, except for the curly hair obviously, all straight the indigenous americans
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Danatcji Mitchell
Danatcji Mitchell4 days ago (edited)
+robtherub​​ I'm glad you chose to share the information about your condition with me because now I know it's not just you attempting to be a butt hole. I have a sister who has been diagnosed with bipolar. Unfortunately, she is extremely affected by it, and she doesn't keep on her meds, so it hard to maintain a relationship with her, because she's always in the hospital and she's basically unpredictable. We have different mothers and were raised separately. It's unfortunate to me also that Trump is in the building, and it will probably be bad, but it won't be the end of the world, and we'll survive him as we did the others.
I'm sorry about your son. Every child needs their father, trust me, I know. Why have you remained untreated? Maybe if you go ahead and start treatment, you guys can work something out that will make everyone happy and is best for your son.
If you sense a projected self righteousness, it's because it's probably a defense mechanism that I've developed when I feel that I am being attacked. I have the propensity to get really nasty at times, especially if someone is being nasty toward me, except if I can sense something deeper going on.
I truly don't take politicians seriously. Don't get me wrong, I know that politics in itself is serious, but the representatives are a damn joke and policies have changed so drastically from " for the people", no matter which party you're with. America's government doesn't stand on the same foundation it once did. Our Constitution is basically looked upon as out dated and is barely acknowledged and backed by the courts. It's mostly just the corporations ( who are the new law makers ) against the people. The rich against the poor and we still don't have a voice.
I don't go at people because of my bloodline, I rarely even think about my bloodline. It doesn't serve me any benefits in this world...so...
Try not to be caught up in theories about Trump. He's surely an A-hole, but maybe he can do something that will floor us all.
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robtherub
robtherub1 hour ago (edited)
trump might make a lot of liberal dreams come true, you got two potential disasters on your hands, one, he does badly, race war and the collapse of america, two, he does well and everyone ends up thinking white supremacists are better at government than wishy washy liberals who are more concerned about saying the right thing - but yeah, we'll survive, we will definately survive over here in britain we survivded the nazis we'll survive trump - i am concerned about america, i love america, all my concern here is not for me or mine at all - you do have to realise how the antwhite agenda thats been running in the background for at least 50 years and was ramped up to stupid levels during the obama presidency like the antiwhite race warriors sensed victory finally took their mask off exposed themselves as raw evil racists, then in their arrogance BLM destroyed the sanders candidacy and ended up with a white supremacists president - omg omg omg - thanks for your considered reply - i left youtube for a while to consider my replies cos this shit gets me crazy - once again i appreciate your apology and hope you accept mine because i do feel my approach to you was a bit prejudiced because i was expecting to be attacked - exact same reason as you
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robtherub
robtherub21 minutes ago (edited)
what i want to do actually is watch the whole video cos i turned off after the opening woman's statement and the first line of Farakhan's response so i have got myself into an awfully dangerous conversation and gone into far too much detail on a whole load of what, as far as i know, might be completely unrelated issues and if you know some manic depressives as you say, you will know this is essentially our basic problem and all the other madness in our lives essentially emerges from this, social conversational disaster - i have to watch this video now - this entire thread started with prejudice and has been predjudiced throughout and i must remedy - prejudgement and missapplication of the human mental function of generalistation function is in fact the root cause of the problems america is suffering - im doing my best to learn how to talk to this beast without getting racist myself, and most importantly, i have to get my head to a point where i can get to talking to my sons mother in peace, at the moment i am researching the field called "american identity politics" which is the thought source i have identified as the source of an awful lot of shit i had to deal with from her, she's a fan of american tv, i am not, she keeps up with the kardashians, i rarely hear any music i am not making producing or is being made or produced by musicians i know live in front of me see no screens unless i am in production web music video sites or writing buy nothing online dont date onine avoid social media, but i have to know where this shit comes from that shes got in her head because it is fully bollocks and has taken a good father away from his son, but thats 50% great feminist disaster if im honest the race issue is just an extra, now i have to learn about white privilege white tears white rage whitesplaining human geography social sciences trangsendirism and ten tonnes of shite, that as an oxford trained acamdemic in physics & philosophy including the philosophy of physics the philosophy of science metaphysics and the history of philosophy (as well as quantum mechanics, special relativity, philosophy of mind, electromagnetism, metaphysics, classical mechanics, advanced formal logic, etc etc.) so, obviously i aint been that interested in social sciences, one question in philosophy of science, "is psychology a science", answer, no, to cut a very long story short but social sciences ARE DEFINATELY NOT SCIENCES and people who declare truth from that discipline as objective fact make all the psuedo scientific mistakes like "mistaking the map for the territory", category mistakes, deliberate catgory mistakes, that lead to such ludicrous intellectualisms as being expected to talk as if there is a "thing" called "whiteness" which is an evil box which you can throw war capitalism environment oppression slavery etc in and one called "blackness" which is all things good all science all medicine all music all spirituality and its all totally mainstream in america, it is absolutely astonishing that trump won, the first time ever a candidate with less campaign funds has won the american election, the candidate with the most money ALWAAAAYS wins the presidential election, every time, in all history, except this time, a genuine grassroots revolution, for a white supremacist, fuuuuuuuuck, it seems american identity politics has deliberately created this bogeyman and the only explanation i can see for it is that on a street level the amount of self righteous antiwhite racism and lies against white people must be so high, so blatant, so sneering, so evil, so full of fraudulent morality and psuedo academia that they have forced american white people to vote white supremacist against their will just as a matter of a sort of desperate last gasp attempt at self defence, thats what it looks like to me, they voted for trump as a matter of self defence, simple as that - what do you think? am i wrong?
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robtherub
robtherub7 minutes ago
let's watch the video and see huh? watch it again and tell me what you think before you reply? thats what im gonna do now, watch it for the first time, prove my prejudiced ass wrong! hopefully...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovvy23z3fJk